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Okay, the recording in progress. So anyway, what I was just telling Pam briefly Oh, boom. Russell is not, as you know, he doesn't, he's not involved in anything that's been controversial in

his whole life. And, and, and so we've had many video podcasts, podcasts, many videos, and that's in all of this is on podcast anyway, in which we've interviewed him about various controversies

and medicine. And this

is one of the first, although in every one we've introduced issues that we're going to talk about today, this is the first one we've devoted totally to this, which is basically to inform the

readers, most of whom don't know, or haven't spent a lot of time understanding what are the forces going on in the world that's shaping their lives and their innocent bystanders. And, and

basically are uneducated about these things. And we've gone through a history in the world for centuries where people have been introduced to new concepts, new ideas, new empires, new ways of

thinking, going from mysticism to multiple gods to monotheistic religions. And so what's happening isn't basically new, but what you're talking about, and Pat's gonna talk about this started in

the 1930s, even before, and we've been with that with David Rockefeller talking about him in the pharmaceutical industry and how that got established and how fluoride was a byproduct of making the

aluminum and that was then put in the drinking water because they didn't know what to do with it. And they convinced everybody that it was to stop tooth It's okay, but there was no research done to

support that.

And it's been widely accepted around the world, and now people are beginning to understand that this isn't the right thing to do, but Russell has said this many times, going, It's hard to

unconvince people about what they know, rather than convince them new. And you're both involved in looking at the world from a different perspective or different perspectives that have historical

significance and what David, you're talking about, is happening in front of our eyes today. In front of our eyes today, Russell and I talked to a group of people every week.

And we sit down and you say, Well, look what's happened in our country. We have

now revelations of tremendous corruption in the government, communists who had been involved in taking over the system. We had a president who wasn't a president who was elected while he was

demented and Russell and I talked about that. at the very time that happened, and we said he had dementia. And that was four years in unrecognization. In denial, you've talked about that, David.

We went through the COVID issue, which Russell and I wrote a book about. And our book was suppressed like Kennedy's, as we published it on

Amazon. And

it didn't make any sense. It's us, all the things that were coming out. So we had a chronological

summary of how, what had happened. And only with time did the truth become out. And so the question that I always ask people is what is the truth? 'Cause we don't know what the truth is. And

we're not getting the truth. But over time, the truth comes out. Which is, again, what you talked about, David, in your interview, and Pat, what you're saying. And so I just wanted to give

that as a background And the path has written a book on technocracy. David has also written things about that and written a lot about COVID and the psychops

and how the population is being influenced. So maybe you wanna make a little bit of an introduction of Pat and David Russell, because they're friends of yours, you know them, and then we can get

into the substance, okay?

And I'll record. Well, Pat and I met at a meeting We had a common friend

standing on teeth who had radio liberty. And I flew out to California to give a talk about the vaccines back then. And I met Pat and we got to be friends and he has this organization in which he was

about technology. I mean, technology rise and technocracy And as we got to talking, I realized

his beginning books, which were the Prahlateral Commission, was Anthony Sutton, who was a giant in this area. And I read Pat and I said, Well, Pat's a giant too. And he goes through the history

of the Prahlateral Commission in two volumes. You can buy the book on Amazon now, both volumes combined. And he describes the origin of this organization, which was David Rockefeller and

Brzezinski. And

this was after the

organization of previous organization by David Rockefeller, in which he kind of outlined this in brief detail, but in the Prahlateral Commission, it goes into great detail. And we see a great deal

to this is linked back to the Prahlateral Commission And so, almost all the. presidents since we've had, since it's been an organization, has grown, their cabinet members were chosen from the

trilateral commission. Most of the legislation that we're seeing, like Obama bill and other things, I tell people it didn't start in Congress, it started in these organizations, particularly the

trilateral commission. And what they did is they designed it, wrote it, sent it to Congress, and Congress passed it.

So Pat goes, it's just very detailed of this. It's tremendously readable. And then I'm at David and I read David's book, both books. I read his book Connecting Wall Street, The Nazis, and the

growth of the war for technocracy And I said, well, he's right along with Pat. And then I read that they were friends and knew each other. And I read his other book on the psychological operations

that were leading to the war on technocracy using COVID-19. And I said, This is an incredible book. And his book on the Nazis was incredible, goes through all the history. And I said, People

need to read these three books And I mean two books. And then when I read Pat's books, I said, Here has three books on technocracythat is in great detail. Go through the history. Go through

everything about, you need to know about technocracy, but you need to sit down, read it, think about it, critically, and understand what he's talking about. And what we've seen over the last 10

years, even, is a tremendous growth of technocracy. Smart meters smart cities as the David and Pat both say The idea of smart anything. They say smart You better duck and run It's just my Run

Reagan used to say if you get a knock on the door and they say we're from the government We're here to help you you better grab a gun or run Because you're in you're in danger and so they have

outlined this danger in great detail And they give reference to people for instance. They give reference to Delgado in control of the brain and of course We're interested in that in particular is how

they're actually controlling the brain And if you read Delgado book which I've read twice and he says what most of them say well There's no God evolution created man by chance and Unfortunately

evolution is slow. and poorly directed. And we intend to speed up evolution and we intend to direct it. And we intend to direct it. So there's a world of totalitarianism. And the first thing was,

there's too many people on earth to control. There's 8 billion people. So they have written numerous times. We need to get rid of 75 billion people and maybe have 500 million to a billion at most

alive and we have to control them absolutely. And then they go through the whole concept of, well, how do you control human being? Well, the Soviets tried it. Socialist countries have tried it.

The Nazis tried it. The fascists tried it. But until technocracy arose, as Pat particularly points out, it was impossible. But with 500 million people in the entire world, with the power of

technology. They can.

It was perfect. Oh my gosh. And as Delgado says in his book, your last refuse of privacy is your own brain. And we're invading that. And, you know, if you go through Delgado's history, he

started out with putting in chips in the brain, which would require surgery And then he discovered that you could actually do it by microwaves at a distance. You can make people hear voices. You

can make them hear things. You can make them have certain thoughts. And it's expanded to the point where they say, well, we don't even have to do that. We can do it with a syringe. We can inject

these, these objects. And then we had the world nanotechnology. And if you look at the history of nanotechnology, you see, well, These things are so small, they easily fit in a syringe. And

once injected, they self-assembled and could control the brain. And as David shows in his Solari report, I don't know if you're seeing this, you can get it free. And if the 75 pages is just

absolute wonderful stuff, particularly interesting and to us that know the brain, we see these things aren't a movie, these are possible These are now being done and you can control the brain from

inside so you can't have certain thoughts. And I showed Jim a lecture by the CIA in which they said they had a vaccine in which people could not have religious experience. And so one of those people

in the audience said, That's a nightmare. And the speaker said, No, it isn't.

You see these people having religious experiences problem and so we can make it so they can't have it.

Well, whatever thoughts are they restricting? So you can't have love, compassion. They decide to depopulate the world and you just don't care. They tell you that you need to participate in the

depopulation and we're gonna need to eliminate your family, your community, your friends and you can no longer care And as I read David's thing on the Solaire Report, I thought, you know, what

was discovered by electrical stimulation of the brain is you can turn certain emotions

off. So like for a psychopath, we know that the orbital from a cortex controls your compassion so that you don't do outrageous that. But psychopaths, they're orbital from a cortex asylum. And so

they have no emotion They can kill and feel nothing. They can sleep fine that night. Well, what if they just took people at a distance and shut off this part of the brain? You could make

psychopathic murmurs at a distance. And I wonder, is this a school shooter? Is this the psychotics that go and shoot up a mall or something like that? But we're seeing now we're getting absolute

control of the brain and the brain is no longer yours and your private realm. Now it belongs to the controllers. So I think I've talked about it. But both of these guys are highly credentialed.

Their books are well worth reading and you need to listen to their lectures. They've got several lectures on the internet and you need to listen to their interviews, their lectures and their movies

like that on the war movie, which is video tight. Very good. and the agenda. You need to watch most of those tags. So now I'll just turn it over to you all. Matthew, you wanna, but what are

your thoughts about, we've covered about 3000 years of history. What are your thoughts, what are your thoughts

about that David? You can follow and then we'll get into the discussion, okay? I'm sure that

this business of social engineering didn't just start like 10 years ago. It started at least with scientific

emphasis

and in the

1930s when technocracy declared that it was the science of social engineering that that concept really didn't crystallize that

until they set it. the science of social engineering. That means they wanted to mess with your mind. And ever since all of the experiments that took place in the mid-century, like with, well,

Tavistock, for instance, and well, you have Skinner and the other early experimenters with

social engineering, but it got more sophisticated as time went on. These scientists started injecting things and experimenting with other invasive things. And now it's become a fine science, I'm

sure. And the things that we see today that are affecting the brain, this is just the natural extension of that inquiry that started almost. a hundred years ago. That gave them a lot of time to

ramp up. A lot of research went into it.

People don't appreciate academics. I don't think because nobody covers that

in the media, whoever heard of the story, the life and a day in the life of a

neuroscientist. You don't see that.

They can work for years without any

public scrutiny. All of a sudden they invent something that just catches the imagination and of dictators as well. But then it becomes a big story. Well, now things are becoming a big story. all

the time, we've seen several instances since COVID, especially where you can see this expression

of the science of social engineering. I'll stop there, I think, and just hand it off to David. But this was a nefarious attempt to control the mind of man And there's no way around it at this

point. I mean, you can't explain it any other way other than it's been a plot since the '30s, the '40s, the '50s, the '60s, '70s, all the way into our current era. David? Yeah, thanks, Pat.

David, can I just stop you one second, just to put this into historical perspective And you start with David Rockefeller and they're super rich. around 1900s who control virtually everything. And

they wanna have a pattern for controlling the world and not much of that comes out, but you get some pieces that come out here. And then we get into the great depression, which

makes, in the failure of a democratic system and an economic system and out of that is born people who think, well, I think I can do it better, which are the technocrats and the social engineers.

And I guess over history, it's been up and down in terms of being accepted or not, but as you just mentioned, it's being fine tuned to a very high level now. And I just wanted to add that

historical perspective because it just didn't pop out, pop out of the water work on one day. I mean, there were forces going on at the time which made people think this way. It didn't gain

traction, but it's still there and it's still living and it has traction. So I'm sorry, David, go ahead. Thanks, James. I think it's important to keep these things in historical perspective,

and you're quite right that technocracy, as originally formulated, was a product of the 1930s and the Great Depression, and seeking a solution to the booms and busts of capitalism. Of course,

also, during that era, we saw the rise of totalitarianism. Now, the smart technologies in particular that they needed to achieve this vision of technocracy, of course, were nowhere in sight back

then. But we do have them today. And you can trace the kind of thinking that is about the scientific management of society. In fact, through the 20th century, through writers such as Alders

Huxley, or Bertrand Russell, or Zabignu Brzezinski,

and

of course Brzezinski, very tight with David Rockefeller, the two of them both involved in the rise of China. and China appears to be Woody and Davis has dubbed the world's first technates. Many of

these technocratic operations are full-fledged in China, the facial recognition, the digital ID, and so on. So yes, you can trace these ideas. Now, to come back to the start of the conversation

when, you're saying what is the truth and trying to help people to see the bigger picture, part of the challenge that we're faced with is that we are engaged in a world historical transformation at

the moment, which in my opinion, is seeking to unravel centuries of liberal political tradition in the West. And the whole idea of the social contract, which you could take back to Hobbes-Loch,

Rousseau, is that essentially there is some kind of contract agreement between the people and the government. However you choose to formulate that, and there are many different ways in which you

can.

The technocracy tears all of

that up. The technocrats aren't interested in democracy. They're not interested in reaching any kind of agreement or contract. They simply want to manage society through technological means. And

so what we're seeing at the moment are fierce attacks on anything that is to do with principles of

liberalism, freedom, democracy. We're seeing attacks on free speech, freedom of assembly, many other things. And of course, the COVID era was

a classic - I mean, it was a psychological warfare operation in my view. And one of the many functions of that psychological warfare was to start to accustom people to the idea that actually the

world, as you thought, you knew it was over. We have a new normal now. And that new normal is pushing in the direction of - of technocratic control. So broadly speaking, the idea is to connect

everyone and everything to a single technocratic control grid which can be overseen by the technocrats. And once they have all of your data, your psychographic profile and know everything about you

and you just become a node on the system, then you can be managed with or without your consent So actually, it's very frightening what we're looking at here. It is a totalitarian control system and

it is being attempted on a global scale.

I see why it's having any thoughts about that. Well, you know, one of the real beauties of past book and his original rising technology book, he went back to the history, which goes back to 1700.

and extends to the 1800s and begins with mainly St. Cemmon and Olga's comp who was his student and his thank you as a secretary of it and they had these ideas in the beginning that Society is

uncontrolled. This was a period of the rise of science. We got to remember that and These men began to worship science. They thought science was the new answer not politics Not convincing people

not argument. It was controlled and that through science you could control people That is extended in the 1930s as Pat says and he goes to this in great detail. It's just beautiful, right and it

tells how they came about Because they looked at communism socialism fascism. They used crude methods Terra concentration cans mass murder. trying to control people, destroying churches,

destroying religion,

and so these technocrats had this idea, we can use science to do these things scientifically. We can control people, we can control society, we control energy usage, we can control the economy,

we can prevent wars, we can start wars, we can tell how wars are going to end, and so the politician will be replaced by scientific technocrats, as Pat says, and David say, and if you read their

words, if you're not convinced, I think you didn't read it carefully, and you're not a good observer of society because what we're saying is that I'm reading their books, I'm saying this has

happened, this is happening, they're talking about this, they're discussing this, the problem is a lot of people do not read

David Rockefeller's autobiography where he says, well, our family has been accused of creating a world totalitarian system and a world system of control. And he said, I stand so accused. So he's

not denying it.

Start reading their works. They never deny these things. They're saying, Yes, we need to eliminate these people And I think what happens with technocracy, it says, and it's very convincing. I

used to sit in a doctor's lounge. I would hear a doctor saying the same thing. We need to let people die. There's a certain age everybody should die. And so we're wasting all this money on welfare

and wasting this money on keeping people alive. We should just let them die. And if we have a world full of healthy people

jobs that we want them to do, we'll do it. And it's total control of society from A to Z, everything you do, everything you read, everything you hear. Your kids, they tell you today, your

children do not belong to you. They belong to the state. Who runs the state? The technocrats. And so they're telling you, we'll take your children. We will educate them in our way They will

return them to you. And if you refute it, they'll hate you. We see that during COVID-19, like David writes in his book on cyclical operation.

I think come to Christmas dinner, or Thanksgiving dinner, unless you're vaccinated. You can't enter this store unless you're wearing a mask.

Yeah, we know the mask is totally worthless, secretly And the Spanish have shown. There's no effectiveness of the mass, social distancing, or any other thing. We just wanna see if we can make

you do it. And if we can turn other people against you, I wrote a thing recently about every totalitarian system, every one of them has promised a utopia. And I told a friend of mine who escaped

from Cuba, I said, If you look at the Soviet Union, what kept people loyal to it? Why did KGB officers continue to work for it? They were constantly told, We're working for utopia. They now

admit that. And the reason they gave the public and these KGB agents and GRU agents, the reason it has not arrived is because there's dissidents. There's people who are telling you it won't work

and it's totalitarian. You need to help us get rid of them Well, what happened during COVID-19? Well, if you're not wearing a mask, get out of the store. And it wasn't the owner's store

hollering at you. It was these people in the store. Well, don't walk close to me. Stay separated while you're at the cash register. Stand in the circle.

Children will be educated at home. They won't be able to go to school. Even though, as Bechard points out, and as the research points out, children almost didn't get this infection, and they

didn't transmit it. So, why were you doing this? Total control to see what can we make people do? I think this was a great test, as David points out in his book. This is a test. How far can we

push this? What can we make people do? Well, you can't go to a graduation You people can't have a wedding ceremony. You can't even have a funeral. You've got to set apart at the funeral. You

can't set next to your loved one because you might, so you sit in this chair separated from them during the funeral. Well, you can't have a wedding ceremony because there's too many people. And

then at the same time, here's a Walmart, packed full of people. Here is demonstrations, thousands of people in the street, Black Lives Matter and LGBT or whatever you want. That's okay, but you

cannot go in here. And as David points out, none of their restrictions, none of their instructions made any sense whatsoever. Didn't make a bit of sense. But they wanted to see, can we make

people do stuff that's absolutely senseless? That makes no sense, that there's no research to support that and we make people take a vaccine that is untested. That is a new technology. that

previously we said it would take 10 years before we can approve this. And within months it's approved. Can we cover up the safety test and say it's safe and effective? Even though our own studies,

the people who were in the safety test said it was a total lie. People who designed it said it was a lie. And it made no difference. Because they wanted to see can we make people do things as

stupid as it is, as much research and experts indicate, it was all a lie to begin with.

I don't understand, that's terrific. If you go through, go back through the history of mankind and the development of governments and so forth. And then we started out with the hunter-gatherers,

and then we evolved into more societies. I located along trade routes and so forth, and then you're head-developed from that, leaders. and had their various philosophies of how to govern somewhere

benevolent dictators, somewhere very ruthless dictators.

And this goes on, it goes on through the Renaissance and the Reformation, which is a major change in the fact that the religious ideas, which were, at that point, in many ways unyielding,

weren't accepted, and then people began to pick up reason At that time, it was Muthusian who was a minister who

said we have too many people in the world, we can't feed them all. And from there came the idea which the Rockefeller's and others have adopted, that we have too many worlds. So people in the

world, so we gotta get rid of them. So there's a long history behind all this, that gets to this and we come, David, to the recent times with the bombers of the children and the 50s and 60s who

made a fundamental statement that's shocking, which is don't believe anything. Anybody over 30 tells you, which is an abject rejection of all the history of civilization. And if you do that, you

start over. That which is what we're seeing. So,

and I think, Pat, you wrote about this, David, you mentioned this It's a utopia, everybody's trying to achieve this utopia. How do you get a utopia out of all these individual people? Well,

they got to be controlled. That's what you're talking about, Pat. So, why don't you go on from there? But I wanted to give people kind of a, this is a historic that's been going on for centuries

in different forms. And it's gonna continue.

Technocracy is a different animal Apart from communism, socialism, fascism, all the isms. Techocracy was rejected by the late '40s, at least, by the

American people. They saw through what was happening, and they didn't get any traction at that point. But if we understand the first in rejected they why place, maybe by the

mid-'50s at least, or at the latest, you can understand how evil the system is, because this is set apart from anything else we've seen in history.

When the organization, Technocracy, Inc, was established as a membership organization, you had to pay dues, number one, and you get a card The card allowed you to attend any meeting of

Technocracy across the country Most of them were. held in Grange's, Grange buildings, interesting government buildings, but nevertheless, they had, they were having meetings all over the country

in the 30s especially. And so you had to have a car to get in, otherwise you couldn't get in. They would turn you away at the door. Well, there was two groups of people that the technocrats would

not allow in their meetings. Number one was politicians. They hated politicians in general. So no politician could enter

the tent, if you will. The other group that they excluded specifically was all the communists. There was a big communist movement in the 30s. They hated communists And the communists hated them as

well. So how could everybody basically in the country that all the non-communist and the communist and the Marxists. How could everybody hate this group? They called themselves the technocrats.

You have to understand what these people were saying.

Basically, they were seen as removing man from the equation of society. Humaneness, humanity. This was the biggest claim that the communists made against them. They said to the technocrats, you

can't remove man from the equation because we have to have class struggle or whatever. We managed people. That thought just completely escaped.

The technocrats, they wanted to remove man. This also speaks, for instance, of CS. Lewis's work, the abolition of man. If you've never read that before, a short book, read it. And you'll

understand from his lips, from the, I think he wrote that back some around the 1950s.

You'll see he develops the thought, the more you look into nature, the more you investigate things scientifically, the more you try to capture nature, for instance, for your own purposes, the

more nature captures you. And at the end of that struggle, I guess, when you get down to the atomic subatomic level, there's no way, no where else to go at that point, but his conclusion. was

the abolition of man and this is exactly, I think what all the people in America saw and the communists saw and the Marxists saw and other people, you can't take humans away from humans. This is

exactly what this mentality today is doing the same thing. It's stripping humanity out of humanity.

That's the bottom line, in my opinion. You're absolutely right. You remember it had to be a month ago, Mark Zuckerberg came up and made a comment that your best friend is going to be bots, which

is exactly what you're saying. It is. You know, I just did a study just recently when I saw these companion apps that were coming out all over the internet, mostly loaded on your smartphone

But companion apps, that's what Zuckerberg's talking about. Basically, it's a bot, but you can be presented with an avatar or absolutely look at a person. And

they want it to be your best friend, your therapist, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, whatever is somebody to talk to incessantly And so I said, okay, well, there's 350 apps now around the

world who are promising this. It's a machine, you're bonding with a machine.

So this whole class of

apps, it was only started in 2023.

That's two years ago in two years since the inception of this new class of apps.

The top eight out of those 350, the top eight now have more than 200 million users.

In just two years, it's exploding around

the world People are eating it up, mostly young people, but some older people as well. This is a tsunami, nobody sees, it's an invisible tsunami that risks

the destruction of society. Because if you can't maintain a relationship with a human being, you're out of the picture at that point. If you can't relate, you can't relate.

This is what these apps are doing for people now. But all that to say, this whole phenomena of technocracy is expressing itself all over society,

all the way down to the minds of people to disassociate people with

normal activities, normal behavior And what will we be left with after that, the aftermath, the hubris of this whole thing, you can't begin to comprehend it until you see it. I see it now, and

I'm so stunned that this is sweeping all over humanity. This is beyond the concept of utopia at this point. I don't know what it is That's not, you can't hardly call it dystopia, but. it is, in

one sense. But we need a new term for somehow to explain what's going on. David, the

hardest problem Russell and I have is - and we're talking to an audience of highly educated, supposedly intelligent people. And it's difficult to get them to accept what's happening or to connect -

we have a kind of a common phrase. We use connect all the dots. And I was going to ask you, because you've written about this, the COVID was, and we studied that a lot. And what happened is we

had - because the people were terrorized and they were made fearful of something that was basically generally not harmful, was basically a cold virus it comes out that the vaccine, which they had

prepared secretly for. a long time in collusion with the pharmaceutical companies, gets back to Rockefeller and so forth. But anyway, this was promoted in the public. And what happened is we had

social distancing, we had isolation, we had shutdown of churches, we had masks, none of which has any scientific proof to validate it. We had people being transferred to nursing homes and getting

infecting older people there Obviously with the intent, which nobody wants to admit of getting rid of those people. And so the reason I brought that up is it's right in front of our face, it

happened. It was real. I remember going into the store and then you see those little things in the floor. It's six feet between you and the person in front of you. That's where you stay. And if I

was being questioned by somebody who didn't have any education, why aren't you wearing your mask? You wanna comment? So what we're trying to do is bring it into reality. This is actually happening.

And it's happening to an extreme extent in China down to even saying if you don't do what we want you to do, we're going to take away your money. So you want to comment about that. That's what

you're saying. This is

psychops.

Sure. And my experience, the educated classes, the professional classes are the least able to see what's going on and to grasp and accept that. And I think there are many reasons for it. Part of

it has to do with the kind of arrogance, well, I'm a, you know, I've got a PhD, I'm well trained, I'm much smarter than you kind of thing. Part of it has to do with professionalization and

specialization into disciplines and subdisciplines so that people think that there's some kind of genius in their own little area but actually what's really required today is being able to see the

totality, being able to see developments happening across multiple fields all at once. And the way that knowledge has been parceled out and siloed off into all of these different disciplines is not

helpful at all for doing that. And then, of course, you have funding issues as well, particularly in academia, where most universities are essentially captured by the funders, be they rich and

powerful organisations like the Carnegie or the Rockefeller foundations or government grants or whatever it may be. So that's also a problem. And then on top of all of that, we have the

psychological operations, as you say, and my book, COVID-19, Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy, is 400 pages long. And it goes into great detail about the multifaceted

psychological operations that will wage against the public and it draws on techniques from Nazi Germany. from the Soviet Union, from the Tavistock Institute, from applied behavioral psychology,

and much else besides, and it's the scale and the malice and the ferocity of that operation that I think people struggle to grasp. So I go through, for example, techniques of shock, of

trauma-based mind control, of

using fear, weaponized deception, cognitive attack to scramble people's cognition, mechanisms of social division, and much else besides. And the thing is here, that book is just volume one of

two. So half of it hasn't yet been written, but that one volume, or published at least, that one volume, though, should be enough to show just how much was thrown at the public all at once,

simultaneously, specifically to confuse and demoralize and debilitate. population and thereby weaken its will to resist. So this is an act of warfare, in my opinion. This is war and I don't mean

that as a euphemism and I don't mean that as a metaphor. This is war and it's war against the people, it's war against humanity, as Pat was saying. I'm glad that he mentioned the term evil because

that really is at the heart of all of this and to come back to what Russell was saying a moment ago about the intentionally absurd measures that the public was expected to play along with. For

example, go into a restaurant, keep your mask on, sit down at the table, mask off, get up to go to the toilet, mask on, come back to the table, mask off. I mean, absolute insanity. But

again, this was by design, I think. I just read a short quote here by Voltaire from from 1767 he said. Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you

commit injustices. If you do not use the intelligence with which God endowed your mind to resist believing in possibilities, you will not be able to use the sense of injustice which God planted in

your heart to resist a command to do evil. Once a single faculty of your soul has been tyrannised, all the other faculties will submit to the same fate So this, getting the public to consent and

acquiesce to these humiliating and absurd ritualistic practices actually has a very, very dark element because it helps to facilitate evil.

Just after the Soviet Union fell, a commentator called Anthony Daniels made a very similar point And this is a lesson of Soviet communism for him, quote, To assent to obvious lies is in some way to

become evil oneself. One standing to resist anything is thus eroded and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. And in my opinion, we see a similar kind of thing with

the absurdities in the 911 narrative, and it's back again in force with with COVID. And so what these psychological operations are designed to do is to facilitate evil and to get people to accept

and participate in practices which are fundamentally evil. Now, a couple of times in the conversation, eugenics has come up and euthanasia. And again, all of this is consistent with

totalitarianism, and it's consistent with technocracy. Technocracy is all about maximizing efficiency. So for sure, from that perspective, bump off the old people. They're not contributing

economically to society anymore. Get rid of them. And And this is the mindset here. And you can see it's profoundly immoral.

religious and it's profoundly evil.

You know, you look at the societies that are for killing off everybody over 65, everybody over 70. They talk about this openly. And as David says, the average person, particularly the

intellectual doesn't even read it. They don't know what's being said. You had the governor of Colorado years ago said everybody over 70 should die and make room for the young. And well, there was

an outrage at him saying that because there were a lot of people in their 70. And the question they should ask the the the elite. Well, you go first. But you see, the plan is, well, I don't

intend to participate at all. I intend to eliminate you. You're the one I want to eliminate. You're the useless person. And his Ferrari has recently said, and he said in his book, we're gonna

have a technocracy that can rule society, and we're gonna have billions of useless people. And they asked him, what do you intend to do with the useless people? Well, he didn't wanna stay wiped

out. He said, well, we'll give him drugs or electronic toy to play with

That's a lot, but unless you read totalitarian literature, they say, well, we're afraid of useless people. We're afraid of millions of people who can do these things. So we want to remove it.

This is what I told people immediately with this injection of the nanobots and this nanotechnology. I said, do you realize what you could do with 5G against a crowd of a million people? You could

push a button. even make them all fall down and start vomiting and so dizzy they can't stand up or you could kill them all with a push of a button. I think David talks about that in his Szilori

report. As he talks about smart dots, he talks about a smart dust, which is being dropped from the air now. There was a report recently that smart dust is being added to the Kim trails I wrote

about Kim trails several times. And I wrote for the National Health Federation magazine, an article on a film that's critical everybody watches the dimming. The dimming tells exactly what's in that

Kim trails and that they are Kim trails. They're not control. There was a total lie sold to people, proven, and we look at the COVID-19.

millions of people dead after it. And we have proof. We have absolute evidence. But as David says, don't listen to them. Only listen to us. You know, you're listening to the idiots. And as I

wrote recently about the elite rule of idiots. And they chose to stop

I always like this, I'm sorry, this is quote by Mark Twain. And he was talking about the elite and intelligent people. He says, it's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been

fooled. And it's exactly what David said. It's ego, it's arrogance. I'm too smart to have been fooled. That's right. Nobody can fool me. I'm a PhD in virology or whatever You can't fool me.

And that's what the academia in the university thinks, which Jim writes about a lot, is the academia dimensions. The academia. Is that they think they're so smart, they can't be fooled. You're

the fool. You see, anybody who resists this is a fool. And as Pat says, they utilize this to keep you quiet, to demonize you, to marginalize you If they convince the public, oh, don't listen

to that guy. He's an idiot. Listen to us. We're geniuses. We have painted a picture of a future world, which is utopian, because utopia, and I think it's Latin, means that which never was.

Whether they should extend it, that which never will be. But they have convinced the public, oh, you won't ever have to work You want, we'll get a guaranteed income. You just sit at home and

look at these

artificial life, this imaginary world all day long and have these

avatars. You know, you can't get a girlfriend. Well, we got an avatar for you. And so it keeps them out of the discussion. They're just waiting for the next check to arrive from the government

They're waiting for the next toy to play with until they're eliminated. Well, most of these things, like I wrote recently in my newsletter, is these mega goggles that people are wearing. Is it

for virtual reality? Do you realize they're damaging the retina and the brain? Do you realize that there's a chance these people may eventually go blind? They don't know. And you can watch entire

movies for two hours wearing these things. Do you realize that EMF is emitted by that directly into your retina and your brain? There's no discussion of that, none. I haven't heard a word about it.

Pat, let me ask you. I was reading something which talked about Norman Haldeman, who I'm sure you're very familiar with, who was one of the leaders of this technocracy that was prominent in the

1940s. And what he was wanted to do was change the governance of Canada and the United States. And they basically, they had him leave. Canada, he went to South Africa. It turns out that he is

the maternal grandfather of Elon Musk.

Exactly. Is that, I don't want to have any guilt by association, but is there any relationship? I mean, it seems that they're similar.

Well, certainly

Elon Musk is steeped. in technocracy theory, he grew up with it. He didn't know his grandfather, I think his grandfather died when he was like one or two years old, so he didn't have any memory.

But all the literature that he had along the way, the papers

that were in his house that had been preserved, he's very familiar with technocracy is all about And he's exhibiting this today with his behavior. So yes, this is the only example of a generational

transfer, if you will, of the ideology. There's nobody else like him in the world today who had that connection to the original movement. Yes, interesting David, any further thoughts? We've

already reached almost an hour here, You guys have been outstanding, by the way, I just started standing. Well, if we're on Musk, I mean, we can't overlook how close he has been in 2025 to the

heart of the US government and doge and AIgov. So when you say these things are happening now, they're right there. They, the technocrats are literally installing themselves at the heart of power

in the United States, the most powerful country on earth. And so if they can do that, you can very quickly see how this is going to spread globally very, very fast and again, the central bank

digital currencies or perhaps stable coins lay the pathway to an all digital financial system. If we're looking at digital IDs, we have in the UK, the online safety act, which is now making.

harder to find worthwhile content on the internet. All of these things are happening here and now, and what I try to do in my work is to get people to understand that it's coming down the track

really, really fast. And when they're talking about agenda 2030, only five years away, I mean, if they want to wrap everything up within five years, it could go even faster. So we have to push

back with real force at this point.

Russell and I wrote as a fellow by the name of Clifford May, who you probably know, he's your head of the foundation for defensive democracy. And it's a think tank in Washington, we wrote him four

years ago, warning him about all these things that are happening globally, which also is involving communism or the islamal fascist, Nazism, all of these things are similar, trying to a

totalitarian philosophy, trying to take over

And he said, you know, the problem is, I said, well, you know, we've talked to you about this for four years. And it's so obvious that everybody can see it. He said, even for most people,

what's right in front of their nose, they can't see.

And we had a person commenting about that. We said in a community in which everybody is blind, the only person with one eye vision is in prison

Well,

I would also bring up Pavlov. Pavlov's was one of the few scientists during the period of Stalin in which he didn't murder. And he liked Pavlov's research. And Pavlov found something very important.

He found if you took an animal and you stressed it with multiple stresses, eventually the mind of the animal would break down and then you could totally control it.

And after that, it went into Catatonia. And so he, Stalin told Pavlov, Well, write all your experiments down. So he wrote a very thick paper on his findings. And he gave it to Stalin, Stalin

read every word of it. And he put it down and he said, You've saved the revolution. And what he meant is exactly what Pat and David you've been saying is you feel the public with fear constantly,

unending, stressed. And David talks a lot about all these different stresses. Well, the comments are going to claim. Well, the dot com is coming. Well, depression is coming. Well, there's a

pandemic. And so you keep the people constantly off guard, constantly under stress, and they've become almost catatonic I've had people from Europe ask me.

Have you noticed that people are acting strange that my friends, I can't even talk to them anymore? They like zombies? Well, this is exactly what Pavlov found. And these controllers are using,

is to control people.

And it's exactly what Pat's been writing. That's exactly what David's been writing. Beautiful papers. And like David said, it's like a rushing train And he says, every time you hear

sustainability, a chills should go through each spot. Because sustainability means one thing. We can only support so many people on the earth. That means we have to get rid of the rest of you.

Seven and a half billion of you. Because we can't sustain you. You're using too much energy, too many raw products Eating too much food. you're wasting too much land and growing that food. And so

as David says, look how fast they're taking up land. The farmers in Belgium, I think it was, or they were closing their farms. And so they had these tractors going down the road. Same thing

that's gonna happen in Canada, well, we're just closing bank account. Now, it's digitalized, you can't get to it So we ended the revolution. You see, there were bad people. And it's just like

the Bible says, speak now because soon you will not be able to speak. And that's what's happening. It's, we're getting to the point where they just said, we're declaring a war on misinformation.

And the question in everybody's mind says, misinformation according to who? It's us, the controllers. And so they created an interesting term called mile information. Mile information means,

well, what you say is true, but it'll make you not trust us. Well, what if they said, we intend to kill seven and a half billion people?

Well, they just told you what their intent is. And so I tell people, did you hear what he just said? He's gonna kill seven and a half billion people And they say, well, if you listen to him or

David or Pat, you're not gonna trust us when we start to kill seven and a half billion people. Well, they're well on the way with this vaccine. They're well on the way, and it's gonna get worse,

just like David said, they're

envisioning new ways to kill mass numbers, to control mass numbers And it's happening so fast, it's terrifying. Nothing in the world is gonna kill people. If you look at the communists and the

Nazis, as a great writer, Eric Knud-Ladine once said, they're not enemies, they're competitors. So the communists, the socialists, and the technocrats are competitors. And the technocrats

wanna win. We only got a few minutes left. I wanted to ask that, 'cause we've had

the audience listen to this and see it And the question they're gonna say is, well, what should I do? A pattern is short, you ask this question many times. What can the average person, what

should the average person do?

They need to engage their own brain.

If you can't do that, you're hopeless. Then you need to get off your couch and get out into your community to try and build. of firewall around your home and your community at large. That may be a

city, maybe a town, whatever. That's the basic level of societal organization. If you can't do that much, you'll be overrun for sure at this point. Many people in cities or towns

are mounting a good defense. You'll never hear about it because the press will not tell you any story of rejection on the local level. But there are many communities around America. I can't speak

of other countries, but especially in America, there are many towns who have resisted one form or another of surveillance or license plate readers or 5G or whatever. And you can make a difference

in your local community Don't, don't tell, don't let anybody tell you. You cannot make a difference. You can. We need people to realize, take the power of yourself, take the responsibility

yourself.

This is gonna be the only way forward for you. I'm standing. David, what's your word be your thoughts and advice to people? Yeah, I think in addition to engaging the mind, which it's not always

easy under conditions of psychological warfare, it's important to engage the heart and conscience. And again, coming back to the theme of evil, this to me seems very much to be a war of good

versus evil. And it's not really for me to tell anybody else what they should be doing in their own lives. But what I would suggest is you need to begin by looking inside your own heart because I

think that at a fundamental level, if you do that, you will come to recognize are things that are very badly wrong with this world. And when you do that seriously, you'll understand that you have

a moral obligation to

take action in whatever form you can. And we all have our different skills and gifts and abilities. But I think you need to take responsibility once you've recognized that. In terms of practical

things, the one thing I often say is try ditching your smartphone. I'm not really aware of anybody who's able to do that. And if you try and fail, you'll come to realize that actually you have an

addiction, which is worse than a heroin addiction. If you literally can't live your life without these things and then consider what the implications of that are. You are already locked into the

system. If you can't live without that smartphone, then the smartphone is a gateway drug for for technocracy and just pause and reflect on that. And then if you do, you'll realize that there are

many other technologies out there, which are also scaffolding this technocratic control system. And we need to be very wary of them. Well, thank you very much. I think Russell, we, we, I think

achieved our goal. I think you guys were absolutely outstanding. And Russell, I appreciate your friendship with these people that allows us to share with their, their very unique perspectives on

what's are going on. You want to make any closing comments? Well, I think both of them are right on target. I agree with everything they say. I've read both all of their books and study.

Oh, my gosh. We just lost him.

Well, I'll tell you what, I think what I'm going to do is stop here And thank you guys for your great detail. We lost some of what you said, but what will be okay? So I'm just gonna ending and

saying we think, thank Pat and thank David for taking the time. Also being with us while we were dealing with the problems with technology,

at least trying to get this going. So thank you very much again. I hope we can do some more in the future. Okay, and Russell, thanks for arranging this. You're welcome and thank David, thank

you. Thank you, you're welcome Thanks for that. Great job.

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